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Liner, Cruise Ship and Classic.

What is the difference between a liner and a cruise ship?
Well, - normally you will refer to a passenger ship as a liner, if she trades on a fixed route on a fixed schedule between fixed ports, - like for example the transatlantic run.
Contrary to that, a cruise ship will go everywhere to many different ports, with short sailing periods in between.
There are structural differences as well.  The liner will normally be stronger built with higher freeboard and more space for bunkers and stores, and the liners usually have a superstructure that goes stepwise down to the stern while the stern section of a cruise ship most often looks as if it has been cut off with a knife, - but still, - sometimes it can be difficult to distinguish between liners and cruise ships.
The USS "United States" you see on top of this page shows a typical passenger liner. So is "Queen Elizabeth 2" shown below, but the new "Queen Elizabeth" that is shown after, - is a cruise ship.
But just to make the confusion total, - a liner can very well serve as a cruise ship - - -
Why not just call them all passenger ships?  Then you cannot do wrong - - -
Classic?  When does a passenger ship, - or for that matter any ship -,  become a classic?  Well, - I do not really know how old a ship must be in order to be a "classic", but for me it is more like a "feeling"!
You simply see it and "feel" it at once: It looks as if all "classics" are very beautiful, - all of them -, while the new cruise ships are not. In general the new designs look like shoe boxes or floating apartment blocks, - some with elements of spaceships built in.  And as mentioned: They are all ugly - - - -
 
 

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S/S "United States"
Built in 1952 by Newport News SB for United States Lines
Gross tons: 53330, - Displacement: 47300, - DWT.: 13016, - LOA.: 301,08 m, - Beam: 30,8 m
Propulsion: 4 steam turbines, - HP.: 248000, - Speed: 38,3 knots.
 Photographed in the English Channel in 1969
(Photography by Karsten Petersen ©)




The S/S "United States" is a legend - - -
She is simply the Worlds fastest passenger liner, and won the "Blue Riband" for crossing the Atlantic with an average speed of 35,59 knots, - and she still had extra power to give - - -
She still holds the record for having done the fastest westbound passage ever, but lost the record for the east going trip as late as 1990 because ships of a different design, - the catamaran type, and much smaller -, now can do the trip slightly faster.
But these super fast catamarans are not passenger liners in the traditional sense, and they are not in regular, commercial trade on this route, but only did it for "fun" and in order to win the "Blue Riband" - - -
In other words: To my humble opinion they should NEVER have been allowed to win, - but unfortunately it is not me who makes the rules - - -

S/S "United States" is also the biggest passenger liner ever built in USA.

She has not been in service since 1969, - which means, that when I had the good fortune of being passed, and quickly left behind by this super fast ship -, it was also the last chance to photograph her in all her glory during the very last days of her active service time - - -
So, - talk about good luck for a ship lover - - -  :-)

However, - the S/S "United States" is still around - - -
After she was laid up in 1969, she was finally sold in 1978 and after that she had various owners who never managed to put her back in any sort of commercial service again.
But in 2003 she was sold to NCL, who apparently have serious plans of getting her back to life as a cruise ship!
The NCL guys appear to know very well what they are doing, and it would be GREAT if they finally manage to come up with some sort of idea that can save the ship from the scrap yard - - -
After all she IS the true Queen of the Atlantic, and therefore she certainly does not deserve to be converted to scrap!

Unfortunately I only managed to take one picture as "United States" passed, - but it was one of the last chances there were for photographing her under way at high sea, - and the picture turned out good, - so please enjoy this unique sight!  :-)
 
 

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Here a short series of another famous passenger liner, - UK's "Queen Elizabeth 2" - - -
 
 
 


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"Queen Elizabeth 2"
Photographed in 1978, as she arrives to New York
(Photography by Karsten Petersen ©)

Built at Upper Clyde Shipbuilders in 1969, as a liner serving the transatlantic run between Southampton and New York.
She served as Cunard's flagship between 1969 until 2004, when RMS "Queen Mary 2" took over. After that she engaged in the cruise business, but still maintained yearly transatlantic voyages, and became eventually the longest serving of Cunard's liners.
In 2008 she did her last transatlantic voyage, - and then sailing to Dubai, where buyers had some plans to convert her to a permanently moored ship serving as a hotel, museum and entertainment center, but as this is written, she is still lying idle in Dubai, waiting for her future fate.
Tons: 65863, - Dwt.: 15976, - Loa.: 293,5 m, - Beam: 32,1 m., - Propulsion: 2 Steam Turbines, - 110.000 shp, - 28,5 knots, - later in 1986/87 she was converted to diesel propulsion, - 130.000 shp, with a fuel saving of about 35%.

Please enjoy my series of pictures showing this great ship - - -
 
 




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"Queen Elizabeth 2"
Photographed in 1978, as she arrives to New York, - the "Twin Towers" still standing -
(Photography by Karsten Petersen ©)
 
 
 


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"Queen Elizabeth 2"
Photographed in 1978, as she arrives to New York
(Photography by Karsten Petersen ©)
 
 


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"Queen Elizabeth 2"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 1977
(Photography by Karsten Petersen ©)
 
 
 


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"Queen Elizabeth 2"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 1977.
Take note of the contrast to the local "Star" ferry in front of the "Queen"
(Photography by Karsten Petersen ©)
 
 
 


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"Queen Elizabeth 2"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 1977
(Photography by Karsten Petersen ©)
 
 


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"Queen Elizabeth 2"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 1977
(Photography by Karsten Petersen ©)
 
 


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"Queen Elizabeth 2"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 1977
(Photography by Karsten Petersen ©)
 
 
 

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And here a series of pictures of the latest "Queen Elizabeth", - a cruise ship -, captured in Hong Kong 2012.
 
 



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"Queen Elizabeth"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 2012
(Photography © Karsten Petersen)

Built for Cunard in 2010 by Fincantieri Italiana in Italy as a passenger/cruise ship.
Tons: 90901, - DWT.: 7685, - LOA.: 294 m.,- Beam: 32,3 m., - Propulsion: Diesel, - 23,7 knots.
 
 



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"Queen Elizabeth"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 2011
(Photography © Karsten Petersen)
 
 
 


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"Queen Elizabeth"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 2012.
(Photography © Karsten Petersen)
 
 


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"Queen Elizabeth"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 2012
(Photography © Karsten Petersen)
 
 
 


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"Queen Elizabeth"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 2012
(Photography © Karsten Petersen)
 
 


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"Queen Elizabeth"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 2012
(Photography © Karsten Petersen)
 
 


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"Queen Elizabeth"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 2012
(Photography © Karsten Petersen)
 
 


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"Queen Elizabeth"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 2012
(Photography © Karsten Petersen)
 
 
 


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"Queen Elizabeth"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 2012
(Photography © Karsten Petersen)
 
 


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"Queen Elizabeth"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 2012
(Photography © Karsten Petersen)
 
 


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"Queen Elizabeth"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 2012
(Photography © Karsten Petersen)
 
 


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"Queen Elizabeth"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 2012
(Photography © Karsten Petersen)
 

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NOTE!

The next photo of "Queen Mary 2" is NOT photographed by me, but by Stephen M. Payne, who holds all rights to this photo.
Mr. Payne is Cunard's Chief Designer, - and has designed this magnificent ship, and has kindly permitted me to publish the photo in "Global-Mariner".
This ship has "class", and reminds quite a lot of the classic North Atlantic liners , - take note of the high freeboard and the stepped down superstructure aft. A truly great ship. (Compare with "Queen Elizabeth" above.)
 
 



2012
"Queen Mary 2"
Photography © Stephen M. Payne.
Photographed in 2012 in Hong Kong.
(I think Mr. Payne photographed the "Queen" in Hong Kong's Junk Bay.)
 

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"Black Watch"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 2012
(Photography by Karsten Petersen ©)

"Black Watch" was built by Wartsila , Finland in 1972 for norwegian flag as "Royal Viking Star" and is currently operated by Fred Olsen as a cruise ship.
Tons: 21848, -DWT.: 3595, - LOA.: 177,8 m., - Beam: 25,2 m., - Propulsion:  2 diesels, - 21,5 knots.
Converted in 1981to LOA.: 205,5 m, - Tons: 28670, - DWT.: 5656.
Renamed 1990 to "Westward", - in 1994 to "Star Odyssey", - and in 1986 to her present name "Black Watch".
 
 



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"Spirit of Adventure"
Photographed at Hong Kong's Ocean Terminal in 2012
(Photography by Karsten Petersen ©)

Built in 1980 as "Berlin" by Howaldtswerke-Deutche Werft in Kiel, Germany, for German flag, and now operates as the only ship in the cruise line of the same name, - and registered in Nassau.
Tons: 7813, - DWT.: 1200, - LOA.: 122,5 m., - Beam: 17,5 m., - Propulsion: 2 diesels 19 knots.
Converted in 1986 to LOA.: 139,3 m., - GT.:  9570., - DWT.: 1796.
Renamed in 1982 to "Princess Mahsuri", - in 1985 to "Berlin", - in 2005 to "Orange Melody" and also in 2005 to "Spirit of Adventure".
 
 

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